I dunno, I'm feeling a pang of it's his own damn fault if people are breathing fire at him because he had no idea what he was talking about. Everyone's human and makes mistakes, but I feel that someone with such a celebrity status as he ought to either know the details and the reality of a situation before speaking on it, or deal with peoples' reactions to how he's come across.
In some ways, I think hearing the logic behind his logic makes the statement worse--it's like rubbing it in the faces of gay couples in the US, because where he comes from, the issue is full of semantics, not rights. I'm very put off of him, saying what was "wrong" with Prop 8 like the people fighting for rights are just being whiny and nitpicky, and...to me he sounded very condescending. I'm not very eloquent right now, and it's hard to explain how I'm seeing this. (Being terribly frustrated with Emmy today isn't helping.) I think you can probably get what I mean, though. I'm sure it's very easy for him to know what's wrong with gay rights issues in the United States when he has equal rights where he lives. I don't blame people at all for breathing fire, whether because of the statement, the intent, or the ignorance.
And because of his status, his statement doesn't help equal rights at all--it only helps anti-gay marriage people go, "See? THIS guy is gay and he thinks a civil union is JUST FINE! Why do you guys have to keep pushing in on our marriage?" (Naturally, I don't expect most people who are against gay marriage to know all the facts about which countries have equal rights under what terminologies.) I don't give the benefit of the doubt to the masses, and...it just burns me more that his statement was all fine and true for equal rights in the UK, yet he knows exactly what was wrong with Prop 8 in America, and is, whether intended or not, spreading the "stfu and get a civil union and be glad you get THAT" mentality. I almost want to call it Equal Rights Privileged. He's got it, so it's not a big deal to make sure everyone else has it, too. Maybe if he knew how different it is in America versus the UK he wouldn't have phrased what he said like he did, or not said it at all, but that doesn't help him now. It's...ignorant and condescending and privileged. (Ha, a basic human right is a privilege argument now. Yay.)
I'm probably not making sense, or not getting across what I mean. The basic gist I guess is that I don't think that's not how he meant it is an excuse at all, and that it really just makes it worse. Sorry for the teal deer.
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Date: 2010-06-14 12:10 am (UTC)In some ways, I think hearing the logic behind his logic makes the statement worse--it's like rubbing it in the faces of gay couples in the US, because where he comes from, the issue is full of semantics, not rights. I'm very put off of him, saying what was "wrong" with Prop 8 like the people fighting for rights are just being whiny and nitpicky, and...to me he sounded very condescending. I'm not very eloquent right now, and it's hard to explain how I'm seeing this. (Being terribly frustrated with Emmy today isn't helping.) I think you can probably get what I mean, though. I'm sure it's very easy for him to know what's wrong with gay rights issues in the United States when he has equal rights where he lives. I don't blame people at all for breathing fire, whether because of the statement, the intent, or the ignorance.
And because of his status, his statement doesn't help equal rights at all--it only helps anti-gay marriage people go, "See? THIS guy is gay and he thinks a civil union is JUST FINE! Why do you guys have to keep pushing in on our marriage?" (Naturally, I don't expect most people who are against gay marriage to know all the facts about which countries have equal rights under what terminologies.) I don't give the benefit of the doubt to the masses, and...it just burns me more that his statement was all fine and true for equal rights in the UK, yet he knows exactly what was wrong with Prop 8 in America, and is, whether intended or not, spreading the "stfu and get a civil union and be glad you get THAT" mentality. I almost want to call it Equal Rights Privileged. He's got it, so it's not a big deal to make sure everyone else has it, too. Maybe if he knew how different it is in America versus the UK he wouldn't have phrased what he said like he did, or not said it at all, but that doesn't help him now. It's...ignorant and condescending and privileged. (Ha, a basic human right is a privilege argument now. Yay.)
I'm probably not making sense, or not getting across what I mean. The basic gist I guess is that I don't think that's not how he meant it is an excuse at all, and that it really just makes it worse. Sorry for the teal deer.